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Dallas eBaybes and eMales New Meetup

Dallas eBaybes & eMales

Monday, February 27, 2012, 6:30 PM

SELECTED BY: STEPHANIE INGE

Canyon Creek Country Club

625 W Lookout Dr, Richardson, TX (map)

 

 

We’ll Be In The Terrace Room
SELECTED BY: STEPHANIE INGE

Bring your laptop and digital cameras!

6:30 – 7:00PM — Check-In, Networking & Cocktails

7:00 – 7:30PM — Dinner

7:15 – 7:30PM — Introduction to a new online auction platform –Lou Fausak

7:30 – 8:15PM –Digital Photography Tips, Tricks & Best Practices by Daryl DeVault

8:15 – 9:00PM — Picasa Photo Editing by Stephanie Inge

9:00 — Door Prize Drawing

9:15 — Meeting Adjourns

LOCATION –  Canyon Creek Country Club

ENTRY COST – $18.00 Cash or $20.00 via Credit Card

Entry fee includes everything and a delicious buffet dinner (salad, bread, entree, side dish, vegetable, dessert, non-alcoholic beverages, tax and gratuity).

NOTE:  If you have special dietary needs, please email me, as the the chef will be happy to accommodate your needs!

Getting the “Three Stooges” Out of Your Limited Liability Company by Cliff Ennico

Cliff EnnicoGUEST POST By Cliff Ennico

“I just started a limited liability company (LLC) with three partners. Our attorney drafted an Operating Agreement for us, but I’m a little confused by the buyout provisions he drafted.

The agreement says that if one of us dies, becomes disabled, or otherwise withdraws from the company, we have to buy his shares in the company so the remaining partners can retain control.  So far, no problem.

The problem is that the agreement doesn’t spell out the buyout price.  It says each of us (the company and the withdrawing partner) must pick an appraiser; the two appraisers then meet and determine the buyout price.  If they don’t agree, the two appraisers must appoint a third appraiser, who will arbitrate the dispute and ultimately decide on the buyout price.

I’m not a lawyer, but it seems to me that this procedure is going to be very expensive and time-consuming.  If one of us wants to leave the company, we certainly want to be fair, but we don’t want this dragging on for months.

Our attorney is telling us there’s really no other way to handle the situation as we’re just starting in business and there’s no foolproof way to value a startup company.  Is that true?”

What you have described is what is commonly called a “pyramid” appraisal clause.  I call it a “Three Stooges” appraisal clause.

Lawyers and accountants love this clause because, at least on paper, it seems very fair.  Your attorney is right that there’s no foolproof way to value a startup company that doesn’t have revenues or profits yet, so why don’t let a team of experts figure it all out when there are some real numbers to look at?

The problem is that what looks good on paper doesn’t always work well in practice.  In my experience when a “Three Stooges” appraisal clause is invoked by a withdrawing partner, what happens looks an awful lot like . . . a Three Stooges comedy.

First, the parties take forever to appoint the first two appraisers.  Then, the appraisers take forever to review the company’s books and decide on a meeting date.  Then, you get into tax season (the appraisers are often accountants or CPAs) so nothing happens for a few months while the appraisers clear their calendars.  Then, the appraisers can’t agree on the buyout price and decide they really don’t like each other.  Then, the appraisers stop talking to each other so a third appraiser cannot be appointed to resolve their dispute.  And so on and so forth.

Meanwhile, your company is paying all these folks, probably by the hour, which I’ve always suspected is the primary reason lawyers and accountants love the “Three Stooges” appraisal clause – it’s a guarantee of future business (nyuk, nyuk, nyuk).

While your attorney is right that no single formula can properly value an early-stage company, there is a way to get the buyout price determined quickly, efficiently and fairly when a partner decides to leave the company (or is forced to withdraw).

Here’s how it works.

First, the Operating Agreement should clearly state that if a partner withdraws from the company, the buyout price will be:

  • if the company is profitable, the withdrawing partner’s percentage share of the company’s average annual pretax earnings (EBIT) over the preceding five years (or the time the company has been in business, if less);
  • if the company is not profitable, the withdrawing partner’s percentage share of the company’s average annual sales of the company over the preceding five (years) or the time the company has been in business, if less);
  • if the company has neither profits nor sales (i.e. your company is still a startup), the withdrawing partner’s “capital account” (using the IRS definition of that term) as of the date the partner withdraws from the company; or
  • if the withdrawing partner has no capital account (or a negative capital account, which sometimes happens), a nominal value such as One Hundred Dollars.

Second, the Operating Agreement should state that the company’s average annual pretax earnings and annual sales, and the withdrawing partner’s capital account, will be determined by the company’s independent accountant, “which determination shall be conclusive and binding on the parties in the absence of manifest arithmetic error.”

Third, in the case where a partner dies, the buyout price should be the “greater” of the amount determined above or the proceeds of any policy of life insurance the company has maintained on the deceased partner.

Lastly, the Operating Agreement should state that if a partner’s withdrawal is due to his bad behavior (for example, he committed a crime, embezzled money from the company, or failed to perform his duties), the buyout price is One Dollar.

While not 100% perfect, this method ensures a fair, reasonable and quick calculation of a withdrawing partner’s buyout price, enabling the remaining partners to do what they do best – run the business – without having to look out for flying cream pies.

Cliff Ennico, a leading expert on small business law and taxes, is the author of “Small Business Survival Guide,” “The eBay Seller’s Tax and Legal Answer Book” and 15 other books.

ECC Radio February 20, 2012 – Shiran Kleidman 3D Sellers & Steven Aldrich of Outright

 


Join us tomorrow for 2 exciting interviews.

 1st is Shiran Kleiderman of 3D sellers, a  new company (started in June 2010) creating tons of fantastic Apps for  eBay Sellers. 3DSellers also has an App for Wanna be Amazon sellers called  ‘Export Your  Store’.

3D SellersWe are also privileged to speak with Steven  Aldrich, CEO of Outright tomorrow to get an update about CHANGES to the new 1099Ks just announced.and W

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R U A new FBA Seller? Or are you trying to teach friends and family members? This new book by  Cynthia Stine is the Perfect answer! In addition, it comes bundled with a FREE copy of Retail Arbitrage by Chris Green and a full MONTH of FBA Power.

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Chicagoland eBay Sellers Group New Meetup

Chicagoland eBay Sellers GroupeBay Advanced Selling Strategies Part 2 of the 3 part

Series

SELECTED BY: RICH

Pop’s Pizza & Sports Bar

817 East Nerge Road, Roselle, IL (map)

 

We will be in the private meeting room. The entrance & parking for the meeting room is on the Plum Grove Road side
SELECTED BY: RICH

Price: $3.00/per person

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 Hello to all our eBay friends. Wow what a amazing meeting we had last month! Thanks to all that came out and helped us with this very informative night. We could not do this without your help.

 Again this month we are going to be going over Advanced selling ideas. This will be part 2 of the series but we may have to add a 4th part. Which I find to be a good thing.  I found this hidden treasure on the eBay site. The  link below will take you to the 22 page guide that is published by eBay. I suggest you download it and take advantage of this guide.  If you can print it out and bring it with that would be great, Bev does plan to print some copies but we will not be printing 50 copies.

 We will be encouraging discussion and would like input for all our members. The more questions we get the more answers we will have.

 When you look at this guide you will see several links. We plan to explore as many links as possible and help each other work on perfecting these areas that need to be studied.

 Please come out and bring your ideas to share with the members.

We have finally got some great giveaways from eBay. You will need to attend to win!

Wishing you the best of success!

LIST MORE SELL MORE!

Rich & Nila

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NOTE!!! I have made arrangements to hold meetings at Pop’s without being charged any rent for the room. The idea is that we will order food and the room is FREE! Please be sure to come to the meeting and order food. If we don’t keep our part of the bargain I will have to raise the dues to cover a room fee. Thanks for understanding.

 

RSVP Now so you don’t miss out!

Our meeting filled up last month and folks were trying to RSVP but could not

eBay Sellers in the Denver Metro Area New Meetup

Denver Sellers GroupLearn the RIGHT things to do to get more visibility for your items!

 

 

Walk In Auction

7711 W 6th Ave Unit E, Lakewood, CO (map)

 

SELECTED BY: KIM EVERITT

 

And of course, bring all your questions so we can help each other.

Kabbage New Partnership!

Kabbage Kabbage announces new Partnership with UPS!

What does it mean?

 

Read their Blog post and come join us tomorrow at 12:30 to ask your questions and give your input!

Connecticut eBay and eCommerce Sellers Group New Meetup

Connecticut eBay and eCommerce Sellers GroupTalk About Smartphone Applications

Wood-N-Tap

99 Sisson Avenue, Hartford, CT (map)

 

SELECTED BY: MICHELLE GAUVREAU

Price: $3.00/per person

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Well, most of us do have smartphones and there are so many applications out there these days that help us do what we need to do especially on eBay and FBA. We should learn what these applications are, where to find them and learn a little bit how to use them. Even if you don’t have a smartphone, come and learn and you’ll have a basic knowledge of what is out there.

ECC Radio – February 13, 2012 Jeff Terrell & Diane Kennedy

 

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We’ll be talking with Jeff Terrell as a Successful Seller on eBay

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eBay Sellers of the Bay Area New Meetup

eBay Sellers of the Bay Area

Wednesday, February 15, 2012, 7:00 PM

SELECTED BY: CHRIS TAYLOR

Sonoma Chicken Coop

90 Skyport Dr at Technology off First St San Jose, CA (map)

 

SELECTED BY: ALAN GILSON

We are very fortunate to have Danna Crawford, the Power Selling Mom, join us for a special meetup on February 15th. Danna is one of only 30 Certified Business Consultants trained by eBay. She’s a recipient of the eBay Hall of Fame award as well as the eBay Giving Works Community Seller Award. She founded Virtual Online Learning, a virtual classroom that helps eBay and online professionals through webinars, radio shows, social chats and much more. Danna is fantastic!

The meetup will be an informal roundtable where we discuss topics brought up by the group. Danna will also start the session off with a couple of her own topics.

The venue is being finalized. Sorry don’t have that yet but the date can’t be changed. On such short notice I wanted to get word out to everyone asap. I will let you know as soon as we have a venue.

Don’t miss it – sign up now! Cheers – Chris

California Tax Settlement Changes the Game by Cliff Ennico

Cliff EnnicoMuch thanks to Cliff for sending this article; which we talked about on Monday’s show, Ask A Lawyer

By Cliff Ennico

Thanks to a new law in California, the days of selling online without having to pay sales tax are numbered. Since 2008, a number of states have attempted to impose their sales taxes on Internet commerce, most of which involves sales across state (and often national) boundaries.   States try to tax e-commerce in a number of ways, but the approach that’s gotten the most publicity is the so-called “Amazon tax” adopted by New York, Rhode Island, Illinois, North Carolina and a couple of other states.  In these states, Amazon.com, Overstock.com and other e-commerce platforms that allow small businesses to sell on their sites as “affiliates” are required to collect and remit state and local sales taxes if an affiliate sells more than a certain dollar amount to residents of that state each year (the annual threshold is normally $10,000 to $20,000, although it’s only $5,000 in Rhode Island). The theory is that affiliates of e-commerce platforms are “agents” of the platform, and therefore are subject to state “nexus” laws taxing out-of-state companies that operate through in-state employees or other “agents”.  Pretty creative, no? The reaction to these laws has been straightforward – Amazon, Overstock and other affected retailers (eBay sellers are not considered “affiliates” of eBay so the tax isn’t a concern for them) have simply terminated their affiliates in Amazon-tax states rather than comply. Earlier this year, California attempted to join the fray (imposing a $500,000 threshold on sales by California-based Amazon affiliates), but Amazon fought back, spending more than $5 million to launch a public referendum to stop California’s “Amazon tax” law and ban collection of sales tax on online sales in California.  Rather than face a law banning taxes on Internet sales, California negotiated a settlement with Amazon which was signed into law last week. Under the terms of the settlement:

  • Amazon will drop its referendum challenge;
  • California will defer enforcing its “Amazon tax” until September 15, 2012, and even then will enforce it only for Amazon affiliates who sell more than $1 million to California residents;
  • Amazon has pledged to create at least 10,000 full-time jobs and hire 25,000 seasonal employees in California by the end of 2015;
  • Amazon will reinstate its California affiliates, estimated to number between 10,000 and 20,000; and
  • California will forego any sales tax owed by Amazon affiliates for the period since the original “Amazon tax” law was passed.

So far, pretty uncontroversial.

But here’s the kicker:  as part of the settlement, Amazon and other online merchants are supposed to lobby Congress to find a national solution to the out-of-state Internet sales tax collection issue.  If Congress fails to act on nationwide legislation by September 15, 2012, California’s “Amazon tax” will kick back in, and Amazon presumably will not be able to fight it at that time, having agreed to the settlement.

State and local governments are prohibited from imposing sales and other state and local taxes on interstate commerce under the “commerce clause” of the U.S. Constitution, as interpreted by a 1992 United States Supreme Court ruling (pre-dating the Internet, you will note).  An act of Congress can overrule that Supreme Court ruling, and in each of the past few Congresses somebody has introduced a bill to do just that.  The bills have generally gone nowhere, due to intensive lobbying by Amazon and other e-commerce platforms.

But now that Amazon has agreed to join brick-and-mortar retailers and lobby for Internet sales tax legislation, there’s a much better chance such a bill will pass and sales taxes not only on Internet commerce, but on all interstate sales transactions, will become the law of the land.

Such a bill was introduced in July of this year – the “Main Street Fairness Act.”  This bill would overrule the 1992 Supreme Court ruling and enable the 21 states that have voluntarily adopted the Streamlined Sales and Use Tax Agreement (www.streamlinedsalestax.org) – a grassroots effort to simply and standardize sales tax regulations in an effort to encourage taxation on interstate sales — to implement and enforce the Agreement on sales between member states.

Online sellers need to keep their eye on developments, but I wouldn’t panic right now.

First, the September 15, 2012 deadline is sure to be extended, as it comes right before the 2012 Presidential election and Congress will be distracted by politics.

Second, even if Congress passes the Main Street Fairness Act before then, only the states that have adopted the Streamlined Sales and Use Tax Agreement will be immediately affected.  Other states will have to pass legislation either adopting the Agreement or otherwise meeting the Main Street Fairness Act’s mandates.  That will take time.

Having said that, if you are selling online and haven’t been collecting sales tax on your “in-state” sales, or your sales to other states in which your business has a physical presence or “nexus” (such as an office or warehouse), you need to start doing so now.  Ignorance of the law is no excuse.

Cliff Ennico (www.succeedinginyourbusiness.com), a leading expert on small business law and taxes, is the author of “Small Business Survival Guide,” “The eBay Seller’s Tax and Legal Answer Book” and 15 other books.

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